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PostSubject: 400 miles on camel?   Sat Nov 24, 2007 5:23 pm

Someone figured out that when the Israelites were in the wilderness, the trip would usually have taken about 15 days.

Does anyone know some measurements that they use to figure out this sort of question? Someone said it's approximately 400 miles from Abraham's to Lahan's house & I'm trying to work on some research.
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PostSubject: Re: 400 miles on camel?   Mon Nov 26, 2007 11:03 am

I'm not sure what you mean by it was 400 miles from Abrahams ( Abrahams what? ) to Laban's? house.

These were nomads and moved around a lot Abraham for instance we have records that he traveled after leaving Ur of the Chaldeans to Haran. This route would have taken him through Babylon, Accad, Mari, across the Euphrates and onto Haran. Then when his father dies he moves on to Shechem in Caanan. This route would have taken him , following the ancient roadways, through, Carchemish, to Aleppo, Hamath, down to Damascus, and down into Canaan.

Then famine forces him and his whole people to go to Egypt, when it is over they return to Caanan, to Bethel. At this time because his household and wealth in animals is so great he can no longer stay with lot and his household and wealth . They separate. And Lot moves to the plain down towards the end of the Dead Sea and Abraham moves to Hebron. Then there is the time when Lot and his family were captured and Abraham persued them and rescued him. this took place in upper Caanan, above the Galilee.

Other places that Abraham moved around to are:

Gerar ( Gen 20:1)
Beersjeba ) Gen 22:19)
Mamre ( Gen 13:18) Where he has another meeting with the L-RD
Salem or Mt Moriah ( He meets the King of Salem and almost sacrifices Isaac there ( Mt Moriah is in (Jeru)Salem

As far as the trip from Goshen to Jericho ( this is were they eventually entered so we will have to use this), the ancient places are mentioned in the Torah. Knowing the ancient highways then one can, using a map determine the length of the journey by how it could be done today using camels and driving many flocks. We know that there were no illnesses in the wilderness, deaths, yes, but I don't believe until after the calf incident when they were sentances to wander in the wilderness until that generation had passed away.
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PostSubject: Re: 400 miles on camel?   Mon Nov 26, 2007 9:35 pm

There was more than one route from Egypt to Caanan. There was the northern route which went the way of the Mediterranean Sea, but was also Philistine terretory and was dangerous to travel, especially in mixed company of women , children and flocks. Then there was the Southern route which brought you down and around near the tip of Mt Sinai and back up again.

One must remember that to travel any of these routes you would need the permission of the king of that terrritory to cross through there. We see an example of this when Moses sent messengers to Edom to pass through there. They were related, Edom was the land of Esau, Jacobs brother, yet in Numbers 20 we read that they would not allow them to pass through there.

The traditional route of the Exodus is from Goshen which is in the Delta in lower Egypt ( Northern Egypt) and goes from Rameses to Succoth, to what is believed to be the Reed Sea, and down along the western most coast of the Sinai, to the wilderness of Sin, through, Paran, Rephidim, and to Mount Sinai, from there to Hazeroth, then Jotbathah, up and northward to Kadesh Barnea and down again through the wilderness of Zin to Timna, and Ezion Geber. From there going under and around Edom as they were not allowed to pass directly through there, to Dibon Gad, and then to Heshbon, Mt Nebo, and across later into Jericho.

Another route would be from Succoth straight across , eastward through the Wilderness of Shur to a mountain there that may be Jebel Musa or Horeb or Sinai. From here they could have taken the Kings Highway and skirted around Edom and Moab on and up to Mt Nebo.

Scholars are uncertain exactly which route they took. There is recently another variation that has been proposed by a man named Bob Cornuke who claims to have traveled the route from Egypt to the promised land and found many of the markers mentioned in the bible along with some treasure that they took from the Egyptians when they left.

See this http://www.explorationfilms.com/sinai-experts-scholars-review.html

I am of the mindset that they are in that Mt Sinai isn't in the Egyptian Pennisula, but instead in modern day Saudi Arabia.
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PostSubject: Re: 400 miles on camel?   Wed Nov 28, 2007 12:20 am

Thanks!!!
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PostSubject: Re: 400 miles on camel?   Wed Nov 28, 2007 1:26 pm

You seem to be researching many things, is this for a study group or class you are taking turtt? Smile
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