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The order of the chapter 25 (KJV) indicates that Abraham had died before the twins were born; however, Abraham was alive until they were 15 years of age.

Here’s the math:
Abraham was 100 when Isaac was born. (Gen 21:5 Avraham was one hundred years old when his son Yitz'chak [laughter] was born to him).

When Isaac was 40 he got married so Abraham would have been 140. (Gen 25:20 Yitz'chak was forty years old when he took Rivkah, the daughter of B'tu'el the Arami from Paddan-Aram and sister of Lavan the Arami, to be his wife)/

Isaac was 60 when the twins were born (Gen 25:26 Then his brother emerged, with his hand
holding `Esav's heel, so he was called Ya`akov [he catches by the heel, he supplants]. Yitz'chak was sixty years old when she bore them.”


So Abraham was 160 years old when the twins were born.

Abraham lived 175 years (Gen. 27:7-8 age Gen 25:7 And these are the days of the years of
Abraham's life which he lived, an hundred threescore and fifteen years.
Gen 25:8 Then
Abraham gave up the ghost, and died in a good old age, an old man, and full of
years
; and was gathered to his people).


Just thought it was interesting. Wonder what life stories he must have shared with Jacob and Esau.





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PostSubject: Re: Abraham alive when twins were born   Abraham alive when twins were born EmptyFri Nov 23, 2007 2:27 pm

Yes, there are many of these 'findings' of cross generations living at the same time. For instance:

Adam was alive up until Lamech was 50 years old. So Adam could have talked with Noah's father.

Adam's son Seth lives almost until Noah is born, within approximatly 15 years of him being born.

Also Seth would have lived to see Enoch 'translated'.

Methuselah would have known, Adam, Seth, Enos,Cainan, M Mahalaleel, Jared, Enoch,Lamech, Noah, Japheth, Shem and Ham.

Noah would have known, Enos, Cainan, Mahalaleel, Jared, Lamech, Methuselah, Japheth, Shem, Ham, Arphaxad, Gomer, Magog, Madai, Javan, Tubal Meshech, Tiras, Cush, Mizraim, Canaan, Sidon, Nimrod, Heth, Phut, Salah, Eber, Peleg ( so he would have not only experienced the flood, but also the separation of the languages, and the earths continents), Reu, Serug, Nahor, Terah, Haran, and Nahor, and had died just two years short of the birth of Abraham.

Shem lived to see Lamech, Methuselah, Noah, Ham, Japheth, Arphaxad, Gomer, Magog, Madai, Javan, Tubal Meshech, Tiras, Cush, Mizraim, Canaan, Sidon, Nimrod, Heth, Phut, Salah, Eber, Peleg,Reu, Serug, Nahor, Terah, Haran, and Nahor, Iscah, Lot, Bethuel, Laban, Abraham, Sarah, Ishmael, Isaac, Rebekah. He even outlived Sarah by thirteen years.

Many think because of this that who Abraham meet after the wars with the kings of the plains, the one called Melchetzedek, was Shem.

Another amazing time connection is that Moses' Great Grandfather was Levi. Only three generations apart from the patriarch. And his mother, Jochebed, was the daugheter of Levi, born to him shortly before he died.
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I'm going to have to copy this for my files. OK?
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